Let's take a look at the Bengali participants of the Harappa Ancestry Project.
I have added a suffix to the IDs where B = Brahmin, V = Vaidya and M = Muslim.
Here are the HarappaWorld Admixture results for the Bengalis which you can also see in a spreadsheet.
It's easy to see the difference between the Brahmins and others.
Razib wanted to know the origin of the East Asian ancestry among the Bengalis. So I ran a supervised ADMIXTURE with the following populations set as ancestral:
- Altaian
- Burmanese
- Buryat
- Cambodian
- Chukchi
- Dai
- Daur
- Dolgan
- Evenki
- Georgian
- Gujarati-A
- Han
- Han-NChina
- Hezhen
- Japanese
- Ket
- Kinh
- Koryak
- Lahu
- Miao
- Mongola
- Mongolian
- Naxi
- Nganassan
- Oroqen
- Selkup
- She
- Singapore-Malay
- Tibet
- Tu
- Tujia
- Tuvinian
- Xibo
- Yakut
- Yi
- Yukaghir
While most of these populations are various East Asian groups, I used the Gujarati-A as the South Asian group since it has the most South Indian + Baloch components without any East Asian influence. I used the Georgians as a proxy for West Asian ancestry.
Since it's K=36, I ran ADMIXTURE 10 times with different seeds and computed the average percentages for the Bengali participants. The number of SNPs was about 85,565. I did a similar analysis at K=35 after excluding the Tibetans, which got me 263,000 SNPs. The results were broadly similar.
I am showing only the first 12 ancestral components since all the rest were less than 0.5% for all the Bengalis (Spreadsheet).
Please do remember that in supervised ADMIXTURE, I assign the ancestral populations and the algorithm has to find the best fit using those populations. So it's not showing actual ancestry but broad affinity. Also, the exact percentages are not important and can vary when I change the parameters of the analysis. Just look at the broad trends.
The general pattern is that Bengali Brahmins have the least Eastern Eurasian and the most West Asian. The Eastern Eurasian ethnicity most closely related to Bengalis is Burmese.
Interestingly, there is a pattern of a small amount of Siberian ancestry among these Bengalis. Let's add all the Siberian and Russian Far East groups.
ID |
Ethnicity |
Siberian |
HRP0244 |
West Bengal Rajput |
5.07% |
HRP0077B |
Bengali Brahmin |
5.01% |
HRP0049 |
Bengali |
4.45% |
HRP0252B |
Bengali Brahmin |
4.01% |
HRP0268B |
Bengali Brahmin |
3.90% |
HRP0023M |
Bengali Muslim |
3.54% |
HRP0316B |
Bengali Brahmin |
3.45% |
HRP0054B |
Bengali Brahmin |
3.41% |
HRP0300M |
Bengali Muslim |
2.95% |
HRP0240V |
Bengali Vaidya |
1.78% |
HRP0293B |
Bengali Brahmin |
1.02% |
HRP0291V |
Bengali Vaidya |
0.99% |
HRP0317M |
Bengali Muslim |
0.89% |
HRP0321M |
Bengali Muslim |
0.58% |
HRP0322M |
Bengali Muslim |
0.41% |
HRP0022M |
Bengali Muslim |
0.37% |
HRP0091B |
Bengali Brahmin |
0.01% |
I am not sure of the pattern here, but at least the first few are above noise thresholds.
Comments: Signal vs Noise
Recently there has been a lot of noise in the comments here with very little real information. That is a waste of time and effort for everyone.
I would appreciate if all of you thought about any comments you plan to make. The stronger your belief in a proposition, the more you should hesitate before posting it.
One thing you should keep in mind is that I know more than you do. I do not mean that as a boast but as a fact. Of course, I do not know the esoterica of South Asian caste divisions, religious rituals and cultural practices. It can even be said that my knowledge of Indian history is inferior to that of European, American and Near Eastern history. However, when participants send me their data, they are generous with their personal information. I have a lot more information about their ethnic backgrounds than is public, due to privacy concerns. Another factor is that a lot of the analyses I run do not end up here due to various reasons. But I use them in creating a complete picture. These two things give me an unfair advantage over you guys.
Generally, I have kept a very light hand on the comment section. This might have to do with this being my hobby. Thus I do not have time to control the conversation and reduce the noise. And I also feel that I have much to learn about history and genetics from all comers.
However, recently I feel that I need to run a much tighter ship so discussions are useful and on-topic and not the hobby horses of a few crazed people. I might have to take a page from my friend Razib Khan's comment policy and be very strict about deleting, warning and banning.
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